Real Whitby, the BBC and the faceless Public Servants



Real Whitby, the BBC and the faceless Public Servants

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IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST

Following a nine-month long in-depth BBC ‘legal eagle’ scrutiny of the numerous Real Whitby reports on evidence of corruption in North Yorkshire, on Monday 10th February 2014 BBC North East & Cumbria broadcast an episode of their award-winning investigative documentary series ‘Inside Out’, presented by award-winning Chris JACKSON. A segment of the program was also aired on BBC Yorkshire & Lincolnshire. It has not escaped many people’s attention that viewers in Scarborough, the nexus of several of the segments, were only able to view the short version. No doubt many of them will, over time, get around to watching it here. Glad to be of service.

In fact, only a representative handful of the issues that Real Whitby has highlighted over the past couple of years lent themselves to the necessarily brief screen-time available (total: 21 minutes). Only these were presented to viewers because some of the more complex investigations would have needed far too long to explain in the necessary detail.

For those who missed the broadcast, the program is available on the BBC i-Player for a short period, after which, it will no doubt be widely proliferated throughout the social video network, starting here on YouTube.

Disappointing, but unsurprising perhaps, was the fact that the BBC could persuade none of the authorities who have sought to smear Real Whitby as “libellers” and “anarchists” to step up to the plate and face the interrogations that we faced. But our paid public servants – forgetting perhaps that we represent (and indeed belong to) the public whom they serve and who have the right and social duty to hold public servants to account – offered only written responses (carefully structured, of course, by their timorous legal departments). They owed it to the public to face the cameras. So did we. But we delivered.

The program should rightly be left to speak for itself. However, one statement provided by Scarborough Borough Council is worthy of special mention since it consists in a blatant lie, astutely spotted and highlighted by presenter Chris JACKSON. Pay special attention to that. It is unremarkable in the fact that it typifies the disingenuous nature of the SBC Legal & Democratic Services department headed by Lisa DIXON, but it is salutary to see it exposed on screen by such a respected and even-handed reporter. Keep it to hand. It will serve as a useful reminder.

Meanwhile, please give Chris JACKSON your best attention. Comment below, by all means – but it would carry a deal more weight if you would comment under your real names – as we do.

Nigel. Whitby, 11th February 2014.

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54 Responses to "Real Whitby, the BBC and the faceless Public Servants"

  1. Richard Ineson  February 12, 2014 at 10:54 am

    A well balanced programme, which addressed some serious questions, but, as you might expect, where our local councils/councillors are concerned, there was ‘no comment’ from them, on any of the matters raised. They must realise that something is wrong with the way that they manage local government in this area, why do they imagine that things like Real Whitby, and Scarborough Town Action Group exist? It is time for our Councillors to start behaving like Councillors and taking control of things, instead of just going through the motions, and drawing their allowances and expenses. I have been to quite a few different Council meetings in the past few months,and it is quite obvious that many Councillors do not even read, sorry, even open, the Agendas/Reports with which they are provided, and which should provide them with the material on which they base their decisions. Local Government, in this area, is mainly, very poor, the subversion/bypassing, of the democratic process by the use of the unelected, unamandated, unaccountable, anonymous STAKEHOLDER STEERING GROUPS, whose meetings are held in secret and who keep no publicly available, accurate minutes, and then other groups such as the Whitby Traffic Partnership, again secret, and whose meetings are not open to the public, are a disgrace, what happened to the policy of the Coalition Government as regards openness and transparency? The quality of some of our Councillors also leaves a lot to be desired, it is time to get some people into office who have some notion of principles and integrity. SBC , NYCC and the NYPA have along way to go,in the matter of conducting their business in an open and honest fashionr, their answer to criticism is to try to cut it off, instead of acknowledging that there might be some truth in what is being said. Sticking your head in the sand doesn’t make the bogeyman go away.Sunlight is the best disinfectant.The whole business stinks to high heaven and it is time that something was done about it.

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    • Gina Lambert  June 4, 2014 at 9:35 am

      What an eloquent and articulate comment. It isn’t time that these officials changed their tune though. They are corrupt. They are liars and thieves and they need to be replaced. Why the NYP aren’t prosecuting these people is beyond me.

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  2. Tisme's Page  February 12, 2014 at 11:20 am

    great BBC programme – its really coming to a head eh? BBC NE seems to concur with everything you are saying – no interviews no refuation what you said was right and what you raised seems to check out. You guys are spot on!!!!

    Real Whitby is Factcheck NE.

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  3. Stephen Vickers  February 12, 2014 at 11:24 am

    Nice to see the BBC actually reporting news stories rather than airing government propaganda. I’m seriously tempted to start looking into Durham County Council and Constabulary, DCC tend to send out council tax bills from years ago then claim they no longer have any paperwork as it was too long ago when you contest it, and the coppers seem to be more thuggish than the criminals they’re supposed to be after while they’re busy harassing motorists

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    • Tim Thorne  February 14, 2014 at 12:33 am

      Do it, get involved, hold your local authorities to account and show them we’re sick and tired of our country being run for the benefit of everyone except the silent majority.

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  4. Richard Adams  February 12, 2014 at 1:17 pm

    May I firstly congratulate you on your dogged determination to unravel the Webs of deceit and uncover the layers of Lies that are continually churned out by our so called leaders.
    I watched both clips on iPlayer and must say that although the airings were brief, Real Whitby came out as credible and genuine Journalists.
    Congratulations all round and keep exposing.

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    • Tim Thorne  February 14, 2014 at 12:34 am

      It doesn’t take a tremendous amount of skill to spot the mistakes most local authorities make. If you have an eye for detail, then it will come naturally.

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  5. Ian Wilson  February 12, 2014 at 1:31 pm

    just got to say what a great piece of publicity for Real whitby, and lets hope that many people get to see this and one day maybe enough people will stand up and be counted and stop just accepting or turning a blind eye to whats going on within the SBC and i hope it ruffles a few feathers and makes them realize that one day they will after answer publicly for there wrong doings and face the punishment .you can run but you carn’t hide for ever.

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  6. Ian  February 12, 2014 at 3:27 pm

    great programme, public officials and councillors don’t like the truth. they don’t listen to public opinion.

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  7. jim acid  February 12, 2014 at 4:04 pm

    It is about time. People like them at town hall need binging down a peg or two. they are supposed to bloody work for us.

    Jim Dillon needs sacking. Fox is no better.

    They are all in it for themselfs. its not on.

    well done chaps!

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    • George Low  April 16, 2014 at 12:44 pm

      You Nailed that one in One; respect!!!

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  8. Tip  February 12, 2014 at 8:29 pm

    It’s great to see a major broadcasting network turn their attention to the common practices of graft, waste, and corruption found in many local government bodies. This serious problem is found not only in your city but in cities all over the world.
    Keep up your efforts in behalf of the people in your city, and the strong example you are setting for the rest of us.

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  9. Geoff Cooper  February 12, 2014 at 9:10 pm

    Congratulations on the programme.Please send Chris jackson down to us.The local press is in the hands of the ruling Tory party,(47 of 54 councillors).Only one opposition councillor has the courage to stand up to them,but at a cost to his health and his family.

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  10. Nick Emery  February 13, 2014 at 10:40 am

    I watched the programme on Monday and thought it gave a balanced view of the genuine concerns raised by Real Whitby. Every time an issue was raised, SBC was given an opportunity to respond. Interestingly SBC declined to respond as did the police authority. Is this arrogance on their part? I, for one, believe it to be so.

    I often wonder about people who enter public life. I would to think that most do it to for the betterment of the wards they represent. However, there are those who do it for their self importance and to dip into the rich pool of allowances etc. It would be sad if this was just an SBC problem. Unfortunately, it is not. Councils up and down this country are blighted by these individuals. The greed of these individuals cost us all dearly. When have we heard of a councillor turning down an allowance?

    Some of these people enter Parliament where the expences pot is even richer!

    The work that Real Whitby provides a check to the actions and excesses of certain persons elected to SBC and who cabinet members. The “Inside Out” programme showed that to very good effect.

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    • Tim Thorne  February 14, 2014 at 12:44 am

      There are also people, politicians and civil servants alike, who start off with the best of intentions, but they end up being corrupted by the system.

      Where once they spoke up for the people (some still remember those people at election time), they now speak for the system as swimming against the tide is something they no longer see as fruitful.

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  11. Alan Perrow  February 13, 2014 at 11:27 am

    Many congratulations on the programme, in which you showed yourselves to be far more professional (although unpaid!) than those who refused interviews. Scarborough Council and North Yorkshire Police came out especially badly – shame on those highly paid so called public servants! Shame too that time did not permit the stories surrounding the gorgeous and pouting Jane Kenyon to be told.
    Keep up the excellent work – it’s very much needed.

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    • Tim Thorne  February 14, 2014 at 12:48 am

      Thanks Alan. We meet some interesting people along the way who’ve done this all before. Shooting the messenger never works.

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  12. Michael Lee  February 13, 2014 at 9:02 pm

    Brilliant expose’ of the Institutional “Code of Silence” from what appears to be the “Common Purpose Brigade” in Local Government – [much like our masters throughout National Government and "Captains of Industry"] – Corruption Knows no Borders and suspicion like smoke is rarely without justification or fire . Truth and Trust are Virtues – Not Commodities For Sale !!

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  13. Geraldine Mitchell  February 13, 2014 at 10:01 pm

    I can no longer remember how I chanced upon the Real Whitby pages now, but I remember being being impressed by the standard of reporting about the lack of integrity of some of the local councillors, and although I live in Manchester I continue to read and support the intrepid journalists of the Real Whitby as being examples of what the press ought to be in a democracy,ie shining a light and challenging public servants who we elect to positions of power to make sure they continue to serve public
    interests rather than their own. The Main Media nowadays no longer acts as our watchdog instead most contributors are no longer journalists but rather they are advertisers for their masters.
    My dad was a local councillor for most of my lifetime. Although he was only a blue collar working man he was tireless in helping people and would claiming any expenses at all would be so far down on his list that often he would forego them. So it was in a way like coming home to find like minded people challenging this now taken for granted behaviour of politicians whether local or national to automatically grab what you can until you get caught and even then carry on as if there is nothing morally wrong with this attitude.This lack of fundamental integrity is neither left or right but has become all pervading. What the Real Whitby articles do is to expose the blase attitudes and lack of personal responsibility of those we ought to be able to trust, and their devious denials when called to account.
    I am pleased on behalf of these journalists that their work has been looked at and acknowledged nationally now by the BBC. Great stuff.

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    • Tim Thorne  February 14, 2014 at 12:53 am

      I really don’t mind Councillors claiming expenses. In the Borough of Scarborough we have 50 of them. The majority seem to be useless and follow the local party line. I’d be happy if the number was cut in half and the basic allowance doubled, so we end up with more people of a working age as Councillors. The average age is far too high and the quality far too low.

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  14. Val Hanson  February 13, 2014 at 11:52 pm

    I thoroughly enjoyed watching this programme. Nigel and Crew are incredibly brave taking on the Mafia…err, I meant The Funny Handshake Brigade…drat, got it wrong again, Scarborough Borough Council. *The contrite ‘Naughty Nine’- by declining the opportunity to appear on the programme, have upheld the emerging belief of the viewer, that there is a patent lack of transparency and honesty.
    *Seamer Parish Council- “They’re like anarchists” protests the woman sitting to the right of the Chair. The poor dim witted soul has no idea, that it is indeed her that is the ‘anarchist’, by rebelling against the Law that states local councils can be filmed. Have these people no understanding of the words ‘public servant’. The Policy (published June 2013) is entitled: ‘Making local councils more transparent and accountable to local people’. A link here if anyone would like to go along and ruffle a few feathers (copy and paste): http://www.gov.uk/government/news/lights-camera-democracy-in-action
    I can’t comment on Fat-Boy-Slim, other than to say any friend of Satanic Saville, is unequivocally no friend of any child anywhere, ice-cream in hand, or not. I also can’t comment about the theory that Fat Boy was greasing someone’s palm with silver, otherwise known as ‘hush money’.
    I agree with the the presenter it is a ‘fearless expose of corruption’. Keep up the good work boys. I expect to see ‘Investigative Journalist’ written next to your name in the credits in future.

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  15. DKP  February 14, 2014 at 10:27 am

    All credit to Real Whitby for restricting this very necessary campaign to the misconduct of the councillors and town hall staff in their official capacities as public servants. It is not councillors’ extramarital capers that concern us, though they do say a lot about their weakness of character. If the trust of a wife (or husband) can be so easily betrayed, what chance the trust of the electors? Not much. Any comment, councillor Fox?

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  16. Nigel  February 14, 2014 at 1:05 pm

    Readers may be interested in the statement now appearing on the North Yorkshire Police website:

    http://www.northyorkshire.police.uk/index.aspx?articleid=13009

    QUOTE:

    “Historic allegations made on Inside Out – statement

    Further to the historic allegations made against the late Peter Jaconelli, a former Mayor of Scarborough, on BBC1′s Inside Out (North East and Cumbria), 7.30pm, 10 February 2014:
    - Press release – NYP crest

    North Yorkshire Police is considering the content of the programme, its effect on previous matters and the potential need for any future investigative work that would best serve the interests of those directly affected.

    In so doing, North Yorkshire Police would encourage those individuals who took part in the programme, who were the subject of direct contact with the late Mr Jaconelli, to get in touch as soon as possible in order that their allegations and wishes are fully and properly considered.

    Please call North Yorkshire Police on 101, select option 1, ask for the Force Control Room and state it is for the attention of Detective Superintendent Steve Smith.

    Alternatively, contact can be made or information reported via email: Steve.Smith753@northyorkshire.pnn.police.uk

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  17. James Miller  February 14, 2014 at 1:47 pm

    Further to above comment by Nigel. A request for the five people to contact NYP has just been made on the 1.30 p.m. edition of Look North. Whilst the police appear to be at least giving the impression of now moving it is a shame the Look North only appealed for these 5 people. It appears that NYP in their own appeal are only asking for those 5 as well. If indeed they are now going to seriously (re?)open an investigation should they not appeal for anybody at all with information to now come forward. This is a huge step forward but, sadly, is too little too late.

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  18. GERALD.  February 14, 2014 at 10:16 pm

    Mentioned at least twice on radio today (Leeds – Harrogate area), BBC programme and ‘REAL WHITBY” regarding Jaconelli. Mentioned that NY police now looking at the matter, seems they prefer to be ‘awakened’ by the BBC rather than Real Whitby over the past months.
    Shout louder in future… !!!!!

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    • Tim Hicks  February 15, 2014 at 2:18 pm

      Dear Gerald,

      We shouted as loud as we could and the BBC heard us. The reality is that only when a major media organisation carries a story will the police act.

      Best regards,

      Tim

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  19. Retired And Angry  February 15, 2014 at 12:50 pm

    They knew. All the top brass. Full statement in the post. Good work, Tim Hicks.

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    • Tim Hicks  February 15, 2014 at 2:20 pm

      Thanks for your comment, I look forward to hearing from you in due course. You can contact me on the Real Whitby address:

      realwhitby@gmail.com.

      Best regards,

      Tim

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  20. david nash  February 15, 2014 at 3:13 pm

    Dear all, I am not from your area but have to add my thoughts to the others so far expressed. How refreshing to read how ANGRY real people are! I hope the exposure of the villains leads to their resignations en masse, their banning from holding public office ever again and the prosecution of those guilty as charged !

    Which of you now will step into the breach ?

    A MILLION best wishes for the future !

    David Nash .

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  21. markey  February 16, 2014 at 9:42 am

    Any chance of getting your new journalist mate to have a rummage into the doings around the Engine Shed over the last 10 or so years – from Cookworld, the cottages, and to why its currently up for sale again?

    I think the town has been diddled by a group of property developers on this particular venture.

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    • Richard Ineson  February 23, 2014 at 11:29 am

      You could be right.

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  22. Nick Henderson  February 16, 2014 at 12:45 pm

    Over 450 watches on the YT link above… With people from watching all over the world, in countries as diverse as:

    United Kingdom, United States, Netherlands, Luxembourg, France, Spain, New Zealand, Canada, Australia, Thailand, Vietnam, India, Jersey, Bulgaria, Germany, Belgium

    The cat is out the bag. It’s time the “authorities” cleaned up their act.

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  23. Gerald.  February 16, 2014 at 5:09 pm

    ” — Reply February 15, 2014 at 3:13 pm
    Dear all, I am not from your area but have to add my thoughts to the others so far expressed. ”
    ………..
    ” Over 450 watches on the YT link above… With people from watching all over the world, in countries as diverse as:
    United Kingdom, United States, Netherlands, Luxembourg, France, Spain, New Zealand, Canada, Australia, Thailand, Vietnam, India, Jersey, Bulgaria, Germany, Belgium ”
    ……….
    And around Britain, so really how large is the area now covered by Real Whitby ?? Maybe the national newspapers should investigate.
    Its theoretically possible that ‘Real Whitby’ supporters collectively could make the masons look small, just in theory.
    ………
    So onwards to a new political party, based on an ideology that includes morality. It would be nice, at the next local elections nationally, to see many independent candidates stepping forwards (no I’m not contradicting myself.)
    Is there any ‘blog’ that carries ‘councillor background’ from ex or present councillors ?
    Any reporters that do such interviews ?
    As most people were at schools that fully ommited such information.
    What happen following the election declaration of the ward winners ?
    What happens the first day at the civic hall ?? etc.
    Who at civic hall will meet and greet new councillors, especially ones not belonging to any of the political parties.
    Who fills them in on do’s and dont’s ?
    Etc.

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  24. Lee Colbi  February 24, 2014 at 5:05 pm

    Good work Real Whitby, takes guts to publish material like this under threat from the authorities. Well done.

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  25. Tim W Siret  February 28, 2014 at 12:47 pm

    I’m so relieved & totally delighted, there are people around like Real Whitby who refuse to give up where the political classes serve up their usual dish of lies & corruption.
    Fantastic work by really decent, honest people, restores my faith in human kind.
    I wish you all well & long may your probing & questioning of power continue, there IS hope after all!!!

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  26. Zen  March 8, 2014 at 6:18 pm

    Fantastic BBC report!

    All power to your pens!

    Would that Plymouth would set up something similar,
    and deal with the sex-blackmail by professionals,
    such as duty solicitor Alan Harris,
    and the bent Devon & Cornwall Police protecting him
    ( included rigged courts ).

    Truth is,
    our entire system is naturally corrupt -
    cover-ups and lies are ‘normal’ to them.

    The BBC program
    had (was it?) nine refusals to be interviewed -
    which says it all.

    They love to talk when it suits them -
    otherwise they run for cover in the bunkers.

    Keep up the good work -
    I am sure you are giving hope to many people,
    in an arid political landscape,
    devoid of hope,
    and a legal system that is evil and corrupt.

    I watch with interest!

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  27. Serena Craigie  March 11, 2014 at 8:57 pm

    Just watched this and thought much like the others have already commented, a open and honest account of what is happening. I am not from the area however have followed the Facebook posts. Shocked that Whitby council never grasped the opportunity to put forward their side of the story.

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  28. chas blay  March 14, 2014 at 1:01 am

    Excellent work here the bbc doing a fairly good job to ,only due the hard work done by the real whitby,this corruption has to be stopped and the people responsible jailed,any gains made by them taken away ………..

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  29. jgh  March 14, 2014 at 6:30 pm

    Just one point to make, without a time machine Peter Jaconelli cannot be stripped of his title of Alderman, he was an alderman from 1995 to his death in 1999 and without a time machine nothing can be done to change that.

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    • Tim Hicks  March 15, 2014 at 9:49 am

      Dear JGH,

      Thanks for your comment.

      As it currently stands, despite the fact that he was a serial child abuser for fifty years and known to the police for his offending, Jaconelli is still an Honorary Alderman standing in perpetuity as a mark of respect for his services to the Borough and standing as an example of service to future generations of young people.

      He should have been put in jail instead of being honoured. The title can be stripped away from him as it was with Savile’s Freeman of the Borough and in my view it should be.

      The fact that he is now dead is irrelevant.

      Best regards,

      Tim
      Best regards,

      Tim

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    • Tim Thorne  March 15, 2014 at 5:27 pm

      The next time you take a trip to Scarborough, have a walk in the Town Hall and you’ll see the Council has a number of large plaques near the entrance with the names of all the Aldermen and Freemen on it.

      If they’ve taken the time and effort to bring a motion to remove Savile, then they must do the same for Jaconelli as the precedent has already been set. I do take your point though.

      In the same area there are also plaques with the names of the Mayors of the Borough over the years. The Mayoralty of the Borough is also technically a civic honour. Does Tom Fox mean to posthumously strip Jaconelli of the mayoralty honour too?

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  30. GERALD.  March 15, 2014 at 3:20 am

    Field Marshal William Slim, 1st Viscount Slim, has been accused of abusing the youngsters who attended a school for underprivileged children.
    Victims in Australia have come forward, claiming they were abused by the First and Second World War veteran, who died in 1970 at the age of 79.
    ——-
    The Telegraph reported Bob Stevens, has filed a lawsuit against Fairbridge Farm, a school near Pinjarra in south western Australia.
    He has given testimony in private to Australia’s royal commission into child abuse.
    The former pupil is also preparing to apply to the commissioner to have Viscount Slim stripped of his peerage.
    …………….
    Was Savill stripped of a title ?
    Was a King stripped of his head in the 1640′s, even though protected by ‘divine right’ ???

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    • Tim Hicks  March 15, 2014 at 9:51 am

      Dear Gerald,

      Thank you for your comment.

      Savile was stripped of his title of Freeman of the Borough.

      Best regards,

      Tim

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  31. Hope  March 19, 2014 at 11:19 am

    Surprised to see the BBC cover anything of ‘real value ‘ and this definitely needs to be fully exposed.

    How about BBC uncovering the secret societies that are running the councils and public services who are operating beyond the so-called ‘law’

    Why is it that good councillors are shunned and bad ones left in ?

    Banned! Former Cllr Sheena Williams – WhatDoTheyKnow Org

    http://kentfreedommovement.com/profiles/blogs/banned-former-cllr-sheena-williams-whatdotheyknow-org

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  32. Nigel  March 31, 2014 at 11:05 pm

    Very encouraging to see over FOUR THOUSAND FaceBook ‘Likes’ on this page. (Y)

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  33. djm  April 3, 2014 at 8:34 pm

    Growing up in Scarborough in the 1950s and 1960s, we young lads were always warned not to go near Mr. Peter Jaconelli. I have no first-hand knowledge of his alleged activities, but plenty stories went around.
    I don’t know if my memory is playing tricks on me here, but wasn’t Mr. Jaconelli actually taken to court at one point? The hearing was however transferred to the other side of the country, Blackpool I think, and no further sction was taken. I don’t think this was ever reported in the local paper or anywhere else.

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  34. Inga  April 9, 2014 at 9:21 pm

    No long stories this time, just keep up with the good work.. from Finland

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  35. Barbara Richards  April 12, 2014 at 10:02 am

    I am one of the Staffordshire Pindown child abuse victims, and was abused in care, I was put into care on a Place of Safety court order because I tried to run away from being abused.

    Pindown child abuse has been covered up, the Government report done by Allan Levy QC/Barbara Kahan did not go far back enough, and the report has been made unavailable to the victims of the abuse. I have been reabused and I know I’m not the only one who has been treated in a really disgusting way, not given any aftercare which was Allan Levy’s reccomendations, and I have been libelled by Stafford Police who called me to my face after I complained of a death threat that was made to me, I was called by a WPC sent to investigate (more like cover up) the death threat a “Mentally ill attention seeker”

    Even more worringly, I have now discovered that my son and his classmates from Walton Hall special school were being taken without mine or other parents permission to Drake Hall prison for PE lesson. Bill Cash my MP is fully aware of all of this, just as he is fully aware of the Pindown child abuse cover up and reabuse of child abuse victims.

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    • Val Hanson  May 9, 2014 at 8:02 pm

      OMG Barbara. I sincerely hope you get justice. Everyone will understand and be sympathetic towards you on this site. There is no shame in your bravery for coming forward. Best Wishes, Val.

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  36. Glen  April 15, 2014 at 5:18 pm

    A great bit of work everyone , you should be very proud , i would love some help on setting up a REAL NEWCASTLE , any info would be most welcome , regards Glen

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  37. Nigel  April 24, 2014 at 1:29 pm

    Real Whitby: The BBC Collection

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  38. Glenn Kilpatrick  May 9, 2014 at 12:27 pm

    Its pleasing to see such a high number of likes on this page, but as someone who always takes a look at the stats I always want to know the details behind such numbers. Since this page was launched on wed 12th Feb 2014 this page has been visited by 4,785. even if all those people clicked like on this page, that still leaves us some 2,200 likes short of the total displayed on the page. Having read widely on Facebook likes Im now aware that people dont actually have to come to this page to click like, simply clicking like on a link to the page on Facebook is enough to register a like on the page. In reality this means you can like a page without even knowing what it is about. More alarming is the amount of views of the video which are currently at 2,927, some 4,000 people short of the number of people who liked this page. My conclusion is that 4,000 have clicked like on something they haven’t even took the time to sit and watch. There must be some better way of gauging reader engagement other than the misleading “LIKE” button ?? Please feel free to give your feedback.

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  39. david nash  May 9, 2014 at 2:27 pm

    I write a blog which has apparently been read 39,000 times in 88 countries ! Remember wehat you learnt as a young man…..There are lies, damned lies and statistics !

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    • Real Whitby Webmaster  May 9, 2014 at 6:14 pm

      I bet one of them countries is Russia and if your blog hasnt the content to attract those numbers you can be rest assured the culprit is the Yandex bots.

      Reply

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